Why do people have to suicide gank miners to begin with? I mind my own business and don't bother anybody else. I don't see the fun in killing somebody who has no way of defending or fighting back themselves. What a shame that his game has gotten to be so filled up with so much hatefulness for others. This game is getting to the point where i'm afraid to even talk to anybody because I don't want to be hunted for saying anything, I think CCP is pushing those that aren't interested in killing everything that moves away. Sad part the only thing I"ll probably get in a response to this is eumurgurd you're just a carebear because there is nothing else, asshatery is taking this game over.

Value = Demand / Supply

This is nonsense. A big war or bunch of super cap construction arrays will chew through quite a bit of excess minerals. AND the loss of minerals from the removal of drone droppings has got to be filled in somehow.

Furthermore, those in the north with nearly uncontested access to technetium moons (and possibly exhumer BPOs) have the potential to profit greatly from the market churn of those tech 2 mining barges. Your ganks are creating more of a market for the materials that you control.

So, any noble bullshit about helping the market and greater game economy through ganks, falls on deaf ears. That is not to say that ganks are not legitimate gameplay -- they are completely legit. But let's be truthful about things.


And yet people are willing to pay the higher prices for ships in order to PvP or partake in other activities. It is not clear that your scenario of greater supply is taking place. And if it is, buyers are willing to shoulder the higher prices up to a point.

Utter bullshit when it comes to the 'noble' practice of ganking. Call it for what it is: griefing and profiteering from the market churn on tech 2 products. Again, those are legitimate activities in EVE, simply not of the noble type.

ice and minerals aren't quite the same.
sure mining ice is no where near as lucrative as it was. however what happens when minerals follow the same trend? ships get cheaper because when minerals get cheaper the industrialists can undercut each other and keep the same profit margins so our purchasing power stays the same so frankly we don't give a damn if mineral prices go up or down. not to mention due to the drone region changes mining is more lucrative now than it's ever been. hell, even plex should go down when minerals go down, check the thread in the MD forum for more on that one.

yeah, more miners means mineral prices going down, but a miner's purchasing power is pretty much a constant rate that doesn't change much when prices go up or down. hence, it's really irrelevant if we devalue our own profession because it's going to take 10 hours to make enough isk for it whether trit is 6 isk per unit, or 3 isk per unit, give or take. look at the price of a charon, and an orca. when trit was 3 isk/unit charons were about 800m and orcas about 350m. now trit is at 6isk/unit and charons are 1.6bn or so, and orcas are close to 700m. the time in hours to mine enough isk to purchase these ships is unchanged even though prices have changed.

because see the MD forum about the post that shows a link between plex and mineral prices.
devaluing our profession means nothing since our purchasing power stays the same. we have to mine for 10 hours to buy item x regardless of whether trit is 500 isk per unit, or 5 isk per unit.

tell me again why we should give a **** if we devalue our profession?

miners don't care about ice, we leave that for the bots.
also, what does this have to do with newbies in the slightest?

dude what?

if the teat that macks suckle upon is ice, people wont mine trit?

have you even read your post?